NSFW: Lip Service & Stephanie Mills?


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[NB: This post is explicit & not safe for work– you have been warned.]

I was thinking about the Stephanie Mills interview again today and I remembered, did Mills insinuate that Michael gave her lip service? By the way, to be clear, the interviewer asked her where Michael kissed her, and she said: ”where do you think?” So most people have taken that to mean lip service and so have I. WTF? That’s some personal shit to be airing out on a radio station! We all know the taboo that some black men have with paying lip service, but saying it on such a public station.

Although in a bizarre way, I think it was **good** because it shows people that Michael was a man after all, who liked women. It is none of our business of course, but it does help to show that he does what ‘men’ do.

LMFAO @ Stephanie Mills and how brazen she is! What do you think of her comment?

PS// I don’t know how anyone can look at Mike and not see that he was most likely a sexual freak. The In The Closet video anyone?? No one is dancing like that and looking good the way he is doing and not getting girls left right and centre. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that Mike had it going in all the departments for girls, so I am not buying the gay rumours.

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56 thoughts on “NSFW: Lip Service & Stephanie Mills?

  1. Remember The Time said it ALL.

    On the park, on the beach….. hell yeah. 😉

    Gay or pedophile he was NOT.

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  3. Trojan, it amazes me when folks believe sexual ambiguity means ‘sexual deviance’ or that you haven’t made up your mind on which ‘side of the fence you’re on (straight/gay)’, or that he must of been a ‘freak’ because you never saw evidence of it. One of the reasons it was so easy for so many to think he was a pedophile is because he was sexually ambiguous. If he was married with kids, folks would have a harder time accusing him of such things. Yet most pedophiles are of the normal ilk, not internationally known superstars. It’s disturbing how gender-role-ridden most people are. If your sexuality doesn’t fit into narrow male/female definitions, you’ll most likely get labelled.

    • @pnc, I completely agree.

      Just because Michael was not fucking every woman in town does not make him less masculine or more sexually ambigious.

      So bizarre to me how anyone can say that someone is sexually ambigious if they are not wearing their heart on their sleeve.

  4. Here is Mike engaging in some lip-action with a lucky fan. I would have passed out on that stage if that was me, lol. Look how he holds her in his arms. Sigh….

  5. I read this post with some interest and found the comments quite interesting.

    MJ sexuality was so ambiguous which is demonstrated by people’s different interpretation on what his actions/behaviour meant.

    Some people like in this post saw a straight man, others see a gay man and other may see a child abuser.

    Depending on what evidence you choose to apply, he could be all or non of the above.

    Personally I find it hard to believe he was straight. But i doubt we (the general public) will ever know.

    What I think is that MJ, while a musical genius, was a flawed man who had serious issues with this ethnicity and taking responsibility for his actions.

    I also think that someone who achieved the musically success and loyalty of fans across the world – he died an unhappy man. I guess it does show that money and success doesn’t make you happy.

    • @Trojan, thanks for your comment.

      Career: Life is not perfect and I don’t think many people are under the illusion that having money means your life is chunky dory. I don’t think Michael thought that either. He just worked extremely hard to have a successful career [which he did] but that also came with sacrifices.

      Ethnicity: Michael was proud to be black. He donated money to black churches. He paid for the funeral of one of the singer’s from the Temptations. He gave so much money to charities in Africa.

      And from the Horses mouth himself in Oprah’s 1993 interview: “I’m proud of my race”.

      It’s crystal clear to me that Michael was proud of being black. He said so and he backed that shit up more than so than many black entertainers do today. He also went out with a black woman, had black girls in his videos.

      As you can see, I can go on and on and on. He had a skin disease, so I think it’s important people remain aware of that.

      As for his sexuality, Mike was a freak! That much appears clear to me.

      • Spot on. Way too many sleep/slept on Michael when it comes to this. Let’s not forget how he called out Tommy Mottola for being a racist pig, AND he regularly employed bodyguards from the Nation of Islam, AND he was quite friendly with the likes of Louis Farrakhan. I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if he was like one of the old men that Chris Rock joked about in “Bigger & Blacker” – “Cracka ass cracka!!!…..” 😉

        “Ethnicity: Michael was proud to be black. He donated money to black churches. He paid for the funeral of one of the singer’s from the Temptations. He gave so much money to charities in Africa.

        And from the Horses mouth himself in Oprah’s 1993 interview: “I’m proud of my race”.

        It’s crystal clear to me that Michael was proud of being black. He said so and he backed that shit up more than so than many black entertainers do today. He also went out with a black woman, had black girls in his videos.”

    • “Personally I find it hard to believe he was straight.”

      May I ask why you feel this way? I’m just curious as to why some people felt that way.

    • I don’t mean to lower the tone but didn’t the police only find heterosexual porn in Michaels house when they raided it for 2005 courtcase? They were looking for kiddie porn but didn’t find any or any homosexual material

      • @L, yeah they did. Doesn’t look like the literature a paedophile or a gay man would read….but what do I know?

        And no, you are not lowering the mood lol! Feel free to say what you like

    • don’t know if this is true or not…but found this on youtube, an ex longterm girlfriend of Michaels

        • What do you mean if she was paid? do you mean if she was on Michaels bankroll? I think shes already successful in her own right if thats what you mean. I think she’s a promoter or agent in Hollywood. Something like that.

          Don’t know if she was paid to do the interview or not.

          • @L, I mean was she paid to do the interview? Did she take any kind of payment? Many people have sold Mike out by selling their stories. She even said point blank that he didn’t know if she was going to do it.

            It was interesting to read but don’t really take it as too much, because if she was speaking without his consent or agreement, looks fishy to me already.

      • I wonder if she’s telling the truth, because that would have been a bit f*cked up for him to get married while still dating her..

          • @Aisha, well he’s a man + we all know what they CAN be like. Playing two girls @ the same time, wouldn’t surprise me as many guys do that!

            • If true, MJ or not, and I know shit happens, BUT all I can say is…JERK lmao. How long did him and Lisa stay married anyway? Also (not that it matters) is Shana East Indian or Black?

              • @Asha, you are definitely a Charcoal kind of girl when you said:

                If true, MJ or not, and I know shit happens, BUT all I can say is…JERK lmao.

                And we know that’s the truth. Sounds awful me saying it but I am liking the Playboy image of Michael if this is true.

                And I think Shana looks East Indian — she’s definitely a woman of colour. Looks like Michael did keep it real. LMFAO.

                • Article from The Sun news paper today. Yeah I know it’s the ultimate trashy tabloid but there may be some good info here

                  ‘He wasn’t gay’
                  MICHAEL Jackson was NOT gay, his family insisted last night.
                  Dr Hoefflin, speaking on behalf of the Jacksons, said they were “outraged” at unofficial biographer Ian Halperin’s claims the star met male building workers for sex sessions.
                  He said: “This man has caused huge upset and hurt to Michael’s family, particularly to his mother Katherine at her time of grieving.”
                  Dr Hoefflin also said he took the singer to the Playboy mansion, adding: “I know Michael Jackson was not gay. The truth is he lusted after beautiful women.
                  “I knew he was not gay because in all the time that I knew him that we were best friends – and i was his confidante and doctor – I never had any information that he was anything but straight.
                  “Also, I talked with all his security and they tell me there is no way he could ever have slipped out for sex with a construction worker. They said that it was impossible for Michael to have left the hotel and house without them around.
                  “Since Michael’s children were born, he was always with them. It was very rare that he would go out without children. It was very rare that he would go out at all.
                  “We would also spend time together over the years going through books and magazines. Michael would always look at magazines of pretty girls, never boys.
                  “And finally, I know factually he had sexually relationships with women.”
                  Dr Hoefflin, 63, said: “Michael loved beautiful women.
                  “After Thriller came out he asked me to take him to the Playboy mansion to see the stunning girls.
                  “I was friends with Hugh Heffner, made those arrangments and was with him when he decribed how beautiful and desirable all the women were.
                  “All the time I was ever with him – whether it was on tour or off tour – he would always comment to me and others about pretty girls he would see.
                  “Never once, did he comment about attractive men.”
                  Dr Hoefflin said that he personally dispelled the rumours that Michael was gay in a 1984 press conference after it was also rumoured that the star had been taking female hormones.
                  He said: “These rumours were abolished and the issue didn’t come up again.”
                  The surgeon – who is speaking at the request and authorisation of Jackson’s grief-stricken mother Katherine – yesterday furiously hit out at the star’s unofficial autobiographer Ian Halperin.
                  He said: “It is my opinion that this man is stalking on the grave of Michael Jackson by trying to sell books. The family request a boycott of that book.
                  “It is my opinion that this man is telling lies when Michael cannot defend himself.”

              • Not sure if where Shana is from, although Michael did say he thought East Indian’s were beautiful (the interview where he and LaToya appeared together in the eighties) so it wouldn’t surprise me if she was.

                Here’s another link to a Romonica Harris who was apparently secretly engaged to Michael whilst publicly ‘dating’ Brooke Shields

  6. I think alot of people for some reason see him as either asexual/virginal or gay and I think it had to do with the fact that he didn’t sleep around and quite a few men if they were in his position would most definitly had slept with as many women (including groupies) as they could. I think he may have been a more relationship oriented person as oppose to being a one night stander(if thats a word). I went on youtube to look up lisa marie and diane sawyer’s interview, I was thinking wtf did she REALLY ask lisa if she was sexually attracted to him? Why the hell wouldn’t she be dumb ass lol. I mean seriously why marry someone that you have no interest in fu*king?… anyway judging by the rhythm he had on stage, he might have been awesome in the bedroom 🙂

    • “I think he may have been a more relationship oriented person as oppose to being a one night stander(if thats a word).”

      That’s essentially what he said in a biography done on him. He was all about relationships and monogamy. He hated that his father and brothers all cheated on their wives.

      • @Aisha, what was the name of that biography? Is it Moonwalker? I think his father set a bad example by cheating on Katherine. I mean, look at Katherine she was an absolute stunner and definitely where Michael, La Toya, Janet got THEIR looks from before they surgeried up.

        Never got why Joe would want to cheat on her. I do wish Mike could have found that person who could have loved him for who he is. Maybe he wouldn’t have had such low self-esteem to surgery up then.

        Michael was just so gorgeous to me! A complete freak but in the best way possible.

        • This was from “Michael Jackson: The Magic and the Madness.” I read this in the first edition of the book-not sure if it’s included in later ones. But yeah, he was deeply disappointed in Joseph for what he did. He was also upset with his brothers and tried to warn girls not to sleep with them because they would just throw them away after. In general he strongly advocated for fidelity.

          It seems Michael was the only one who really respected women and treated them right. Probably due to his sensitivity and love for his mother. The others took after their father. I don’t think Marlon was promiscuous , but he did beat his pregnant wife, so he’s no prize either. Even Janet and Latoya were in abusive relationships.

          I agree that the right woman would have probably steered his life in a different direction. Even if he had found someone during the Bad era, I think he would have been so much better off. Someone who loved him for him, but who was also strong enough to keep him grounded in reality. He needed that stabilizing force.

          • @Aisha: Firstly, WTF at Marlon beating his pregnant wife —– what the fuck is that about? I am going to buy this book and I am going to try and find the Moonwalker biography as well. Really need to read both books!

            I used to fancy Marlon like mad and thought he was hot too and now hearing that has hacked me off. She’s a sister, right? I heard he married a black woman.

            Love, you hit the nail on the head when you said:

            He was also upset with his brothers and tried to warn girls not to sleep with them because they would just throw them away after.

            Never has a truer sentiment been uttered. My mum told me this in point blank: men on the whole want to sleep with girls to fulfil their sexual desires then dump them. SO TRUE. And just sad to see that the other Jackson brothers were the same.

            Maybe if they spent less time fucking and concentrating on their careers, they could have been successful in their own right, instead of harassing Mike to do Jackson 5 reunion tours. But I’m going off on a tangent, sorry! Just what this topic does to me.

            I really agree you know if he had met someone then [About the Bad era]. Remember in that Ebony/Jet interview [1] that you alerted me to, just how sweet and fragile yet composed he was? There was something incandescent about Michael’s masculinity that if the right woman could have met him, maybe he could have been happier who knows. I mean,we can discuss it til the cows come home [which is fun for fans]. I don’t know how to explain it, but to me, there’s just something about his personality from interviews that glows from the inside and that clearly is something people want to take advantage of.

            There must have been so much pressure on him & not to mention any woman who wanted to get close to him for the right reasons. Is she after my money? Does she love me etc? Lots of pressure anyone to take, let alone someone who has worked nonstop since they were 5. At any rate, she would have had to have been a woman who had her own stacks/mounds/piles/dough/insert slang for money here. I am convinced that powerful and rich men like him would deffo have needed a woman who had her own stacks.

            Such a shame, but at least he had the love for his children — and that’s unconditional regardless of all the spin, jealousy and haters.

            [1] — That Ebony/JET Interview >> *in Gator’s voice from Jungle Fever: He looked Good! Wow, he was gorgeous in that video. He definitely could have gotten it.

            • Yeah, that book is really good. I think most of it is accurate. The author knew Michael for years. There are things in it that Michael has said himself in later interviews, so it coincides. Plus it goes by court records, etc. Not just heresay.

    • @Asha, that’s so true. The fact that he was not promiscuous meant that he probably would have found it hard to find a woman to love him for ”him”.

      WTF are wrong with interviewers? If sopme stranger asked me if I was a virgin? I would be like fuck off. I love Oprah to the end but her asking him that was butters.

      I don’t even need convincing that Michael was a straight guy into women. Just never got the impression he liked men at all.

  7. His sexuality is ambiguous, that’s why folks will speculate about it, FOREVER. Anytime someone is sexually ambiguous they are often labelled as gay. Believe it or not some people are not a heaping pit of sexual obviousness…in fact, it might be embarrassing for them to wear their sexuality so heavily on the outside.

    • @pnc, It’s interesting you note that his sexuality is ambigous, because I don’t think it is. I can see how it appears that way due to the fact he is not raging with machismo, but that makes him even more sexy to me because his masculinity is a little more low-key, and not blazing the whole time. I really like that about him.

  8. Ha ha! When you said lip service, I thought you meant something else. I guess over on that side of the pond, it’s kissing carpet. 😉

  9. First off, LMAO at that picture. How appropriate for the topic!

    Anyway, I think Stephanie was just playing with the interviewers because of what they were implying. I don’t think she was serious. If they didn’t have sex, it’s unlikely he “eased on down the road.”

    But yeah, I do think he was a freak. That’s what his ex-wife Lisa-Marie Presley said, and she would know. I seriously doubt he was ever promiscuous, but that man knew how to move his body!

    Ok, this is how I picture him: I think he was the shy, sweet, gentleman type. But once he’ s in that intimate situation, he would put it on you!

    • @Aisha: LOL, yes, I love that picture. Very suited for the NSFW talk going on here. Mike is fool — I like these low-key pictures he did.

      LMAO @ ”eased on down the road”. That’s a funny turn of phrase. I think Stephanie did throw a little shade but I was not expecting her to be like ”where do you think?” >> that through me for a loop. Even a past boyfriend of mine didn’t like saying it out loud, so for her to saw it on radio was shocking. Part of me was wondering what her motivation was for talking about him like that but what would her reason by to lie? Not money or fame. She already has both…right?

      Well even if it did or didn’t happen, it helps to shatter this idea that he was not into women that the racist media like to portray. So clear to me that he was….I almost feel like asking parts of the racist media: have you actually seen any of his music videos? Um yes, that’s what I thought.

      This is what I don’t get >> how anyone can look at him and see this sort of completely virginal kind of guy when we all know that behind closed doors, human beings act WHOLLY differently?

      He was definitely a freak. The Blood on the Dancefloor video from ‘97 & You Rock My World, especially are proof of that.

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